Clocks are but one spec of a multitude of things a CPU can use to be a top performer.
The most valuable is definitely IPC. If you have a low IPC, you need more clocks to get more performance. If you have a high IPC, you need less clocks. The fact this chip goes up to 4.6 ghz on a 12 core part is quite substantial. Intel's 5ghz i9 is on a single core, and yes they announced a 5 ghz all core on the 9900ks, but that's probably gonna require amazing cooling.
clock speeds are like horsepowers in a car. It's a spec, but it's not the vehicle's total performance. Torque and Efficiency are two very important things to consider, and just because the Ford GT's 650HP engine is greater than the F-150's 400ish, doesn't mean that the GT can tow better. It's quicker yes, but it's not a workhorse.
We don't know this for sure until someone tries to overclock these chips. Until then all talk about clockspeeds is nothing more than hearsay remember the 9900k is not a real "95w" chip because when it is set to run as a real 95W chip it loses a lot of it's performance. So it is possible that AMD's R7 3800X could reach 5Ghz (on air/water) when overclocked, but we won't know for sure until closer to or after July 7th.
" Too bad AMD can not clock....this is the real problem " maybe they dont need to... if Zen 2 is able to be on par or 1-5% faster then intel while being 300-400 mhz slower.. then why clock them that high ?? it could just make intel look even worse :-)
Clock speed means nothing if it doesn't have IPCto go with it. The Pentium 4 was able to clock very high, but it wasn't faster than the Athlon 64 clocked 1GHz slower. The AMD FX9590 was able to hit 5GHz but was slower than the Intel parts clocked 1GHz slower.
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Arbie - Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - link
+1 to CygniGondalf - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link
Too bad AMD can not clock....this is the real problem. 7nm looks crapXyler94 - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link
Clocks are but one spec of a multitude of things a CPU can use to be a top performer.The most valuable is definitely IPC. If you have a low IPC, you need more clocks to get more performance. If you have a high IPC, you need less clocks. The fact this chip goes up to 4.6 ghz on a 12 core part is quite substantial. Intel's 5ghz i9 is on a single core, and yes they announced a 5 ghz all core on the 9900ks, but that's probably gonna require amazing cooling.
clock speeds are like horsepowers in a car. It's a spec, but it's not the vehicle's total performance. Torque and Efficiency are two very important things to consider, and just because the Ford GT's 650HP engine is greater than the F-150's 400ish, doesn't mean that the GT can tow better. It's quicker yes, but it's not a workhorse.
Cullinaire - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link
Thanks for all the drivel, but that doesn't change Gondalf's point regarding the issues with the silicon process...Gunbuster - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
You might be lost. The article on intel 10nm struggling to do 4 core at 3.9 is ----> that way.Ratman6161 - Tuesday, May 28, 2019 - link
Yes. And if clock speed was really king, then the Pentium 4 would have been a great CPU rather than a slow, hot, power hog.caqde - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link
We don't know this for sure until someone tries to overclock these chips. Until then all talk about clockspeeds is nothing more than hearsay remember the 9900k is not a real "95w" chip because when it is set to run as a real 95W chip it loses a lot of it's performance. So it is possible that AMD's R7 3800X could reach 5Ghz (on air/water) when overclocked, but we won't know for sure until closer to or after July 7th.PixyMisa - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link
Oh no only 4.6GHz!Korguz - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link
" Too bad AMD can not clock....this is the real problem " maybe they dont need to... if Zen 2 is able to be on par or 1-5% faster then intel while being 300-400 mhz slower.. then why clock them that high ?? it could just make intel look even worse :-)schujj07 - Tuesday, May 28, 2019 - link
Clock speed means nothing if it doesn't have IPCto go with it. The Pentium 4 was able to clock very high, but it wasn't faster than the Athlon 64 clocked 1GHz slower. The AMD FX9590 was able to hit 5GHz but was slower than the Intel parts clocked 1GHz slower.