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  • Korguz - Thursday, June 13, 2019 - link

    if navi supported ray tracing.. was just as slow at it as turing, on par with a 2080 in everything else and still $100 cheaper.. most of those that are ridiculing amd now... would probably still be ridiculing them ..
  • Korguz - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    BenSkywalker these cards arent even out yet.. wait to see where the prices fall when they are released, then see....
  • BenSkywalker - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    You think AMD stated prices to make AMD look bad? I'm honestly confused by your statement, or are you saying after enough backlash they'll be forced to lower prices? Or that if/when the 'super' green parts come out they'll lower the price, before they launch?
  • Korguz - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    nope.. announced prices.. may not be release prices... they could go up.. or down... just ahve to wait and see
  • CiccioB - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    If prices go up it is bad for us, if they go down it means that AMD product is not the value they wanted to sell it at and thus having a cut to their margins (as they did since GCN encountered Kepler).
    Sorry, but there's nothing to wait to see if it evolving to a better or worse situation.
    The MSRP are those announced and they have to be compared to the ones of the competition with the same performance.
  • Phynaz - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    Exactly, these bring nothing new. This is AMD fleecing their fans, and their fans are too dumb to notice.
  • sor - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    Dude, you need to chill. I’m not even in this fight, I can’t remember the last dedicated video card I bought, but you don’t have to hop on every comment chain and say the same crap.

    This is a mid range card. Of course it’s going to be similar performance to the best card from previous gen. It’s how the product cycles work.

    I’m so out of it that I had to go look up the pricing on RTX 2070. Looks to be $549 on high end and $499 on low. If this new card is a “few percent” better and priced at $449 it seems reasonable, objectively. The price difference could reflect the feature disparity people are alluding to.
  • Korguz - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    oh like nvidia has done over the last few years with the pricing of their own cards ? come on, unless you have more money then brains.. do you like the prices of nvidia's cards?? i know a few people who hate what nvidia charges for their cards, THAT is the rip off ....
  • wr3zzz - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Is it just me or that starting from last year the price-performance progression has been linear?
  • awehring - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    7nm is a quite impressive technology. 251mm2 with 10.3 billion transistors.
    Let's put this into perspective. Take a normal hair (0.05 mm thick), cut it. At the cutting surface you would have about 80'000 transistors.

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