Integrated Graphics - Slower than AMD, Still Perfect for an HTPC

Intel was very careful to seed reviewers with the Core i5 661, it provides integrated graphics performance equal to if not better than the best integrated graphics from AMD and NVIDIA.

The same, unfortunately, can’t be said about the Core i3 530. With 81% of the GPU clock of the 661, the i3’s graphics are obviously slower. It’s not a huge drop, but it’s enough to be noticeable and enough to be slower than AMD:

1024 x 768 Batman: AA Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 Dawn of War II Dragon Age Origins HAWX World of Warcraft
Intel Core i5 661 (HD Graphics) 35 fps 21.6 fps 15.0 fps 41.5 fps 53 fps 14.8 fps
Intel Core i3 530 (HD Graphics) 28 fps 17.5 fps 9.5 fps 34.4 fps 45 fps 12.5 fps
AMD Phenom II X4 965 (790GX) 35 fps 29.3 fps 12.1 fps 35.6 fps 58 fps 21.1 fps
Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 (GMA X4500) 15 fps failed 1.4 fps 16.8 fps 26 fps 11.7 fps

 

The i3 does retain all of the sweet TrueHD/DTS-HD MA bitstreaming support that makes Clarkdale the perfect HTPC platform. If you don’t need the extra CPU power, the Core i3 530 could make for a great HTPC.

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  • Suntan - Friday, January 22, 2010 - link

    Then again, it may just be that those people do have better stereos (or more importantly, better rooms and speakers) then yours.

    In any case, 99% of this website’s existence is possible because of the tendency for people to try and get “just a little more” out of their electronics…

    -Suntan
  • Suntan - Friday, January 22, 2010 - link

    In a word, yes. If your room/components/setup is worth it, then it can make a big difference.

    Analog output (and no, what you are doing is not LPCM) can compete sound-wise with digital output (either LPCM or bit streaming) if you have a quality soundcard (think Lynx 2B, not anything that says soundblaster) but even then, you lose other digital signal processing capabilities that a good AVR can offer (namely Audyssey Multi-EQ room correction and Audyessey Dynamic-EQ.)

    That said, I too think it is a little over exaggerated. Simply because most people really wouldn’t notice the benefit in their situations.

    Lastly, I happen to believe that the big flap over LPCM vs. bitstream *is* completely overblown. Ymmv.

    -Suntan
  • Anand Lal Shimpi - Friday, January 22, 2010 - link

    I agree that 8-channel LPCM is pretty much good enough. There are issues with players downsampling audio when outputting 8-channel LPCM from TrueHD/DTS-HD MA sources, but to my ears I could never notice the difference.

    Also remember that the majority of users don't even have 8-channel audio setups. We're talking 5.1 at best, and honestly a huge advantage of these high def audio formats is the support for discrete rear surround channels.

    That being said, it's still a valid option to want. Blu-ray players have been able to do it for quite a while, there's no reason we shouldn't demand the same out of our HTPCs. Some users do prefer to keep the decoding on their receiver/preprocessor and for them it's the only option.

    Hopefully by the end of this year all platforms will offer it and we can just assume its presence as a checkbox feature.

    Take care,
    Anand
  • cmdrdredd - Friday, January 22, 2010 - link

    The big problem is some players mess with the audio during the decode and don't output LPCM in a raw untouched format. Bitstreaming means nothing is meddes with, no volume normalization and the like.
  • archcommus - Friday, January 22, 2010 - link

    Thanks all for the info, helped clear things up. With my 5.1 system and onboard audio with Windows 7 these days the software decoding and analog output is fine. But I guess in the future with a possible 7.1 system I would at least want LPCM over HDMI. I couldn't imagine needing bitstreaming unless I was building a true home theater.
  • Spivonious - Friday, January 22, 2010 - link

    LPCM is decoding the channels and sending them digitally over HDMI.

    I don't understand the big hype either, unless the decoder in your AVR is much better than the one in software. Otherwise the sound would be the same. I guess it's fun to get the AVR to display "DTS-HD".
  • blckgrffn - Friday, January 22, 2010 - link

    Can we see what the 4ghz power consumption looked like? Was speed step still active? How about the OC'd graphics power consumption?

    Thanks :)
  • Anand Lal Shimpi - Friday, January 22, 2010 - link

    At 4GHz the i3 530 used 129W under load, up from 101.4W :)

    I don't remember if speedstep was still functioning when I adjusted the clock multiplier, I believe it was but I'll need to double check.

    Take care,
    Anand
  • blckgrffn - Saturday, January 23, 2010 - link

    Thank you!

    I guess it doesn't matter if speedstep was functioning if you could provide the idle power consumption of 4ghz as well.

    The information is very much appreciated.
  • Deaks2 - Friday, January 22, 2010 - link

    So were the the overclocking tests done on the Asus or MSI mainboard? Also, would the use of a P55 or H55 chipset affect o/c'ability of this CPU?

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