AMD Demonstrates FreeSync-over-HDMI Concept Hardware at Computex 2015
by Ian Cutress & Ryan Smith on June 3, 2015 5:00 AM ESTWhile AMD wasn’t the first GPU vendor to implement a system for variable refresh, the company has made up for lost time with zeal. Since demonstrating their FreeSync proof-of-concept laptop demo back at CES 2014, AMD has since been able to get the necessary signaling and refresh technology implemented into the DisplayPort standard as an optional annex of 1.2a, more commonly known DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync. With DPAS implemented into monitors, AMD has been able to roll out their FreeSync implementation of variable refresh back in March of this year, when the first DPAS-enabled monitors shipped.
Since then AMD has been relatively quiet (no doubt gearing up for their big GPU launch). However as it turns out they have been hard at work at expanding FreeSync past the realm of DisplayPort monitors, and they are for the first time showing off that technology at their suite at Computex 2015.
AMD's demonstration and the big revelation from the company is that they now have a prototype implementation of FreeSync-over-HDMI up and running. Powered by an R9 200 series card (we'd wager 290X), AMD's demonstration involved running their windmill FreeSync demo against the prototype FreeSync-enabled HDMI monitor to showcase the viability of FreeSync-over-HDMI.
We wasted no time in tracking down AMD's Robert Hallock for more details, and while AMD isn't being super deep at this time – it’s a proof-of-concept prototype after all – we do have a basic understanding of what they are up to.
The monitor in question is running a Realtek TCON, with AMD and Realtek developing the prototype together. The TCON itself is by all indications a bog-standard TCON (i.e. not custom hardware), with the only difference being that Realtek has developed a custom firmware for it to support variable refresh operation and the FreeSync-over-HDMI technology.
On the signaling side, AMD tells us that they're running a custom protocol over HDMI 1.4a. As one might expect, the necessary functionality doesn't currently exist in HDMI, so AMD went and added the necessary functionality to their driver and the Realtek firmware in order for both ends to operate. Compared to FreeSync-over-DisplayPort all other operation is the same from what we're told, so the end result is the same kind of variable refresh support currently found in DPAS-enabled monitors, except now over HDMI instead of DisplayPort.
The goal here from AMD is very similar to what they did with DisplayPort last year. The company wants to introduce variable refresh support into the HDMI standard, making it a standardized (and common) feature of HDMI. The payoff for AMD and their users would be that getting variable refresh support into HDMI would allow FreeSync to potentially work with many more monitors, as DisplayPort is not found in all monitors whereas HDMI is. This is especially the case in cheaper monitors, which of course make up the bulk of monitor sales.
Because AMD has been working with Realtek on this, it was unknown if other TCON manufacturers would have issues writing firmware. However if variable refresh were implemented into the HDMI standard, then there's no reason to believe it wouldn't eventually be a solved issue. Meanwhile the fact that Realtek is doing this via custom firmware on a standard TCON does technically open up the possibility of flashing existing monitors to enable such functionality, but given the fact that this hasn't happened for DisplayPort monitors, it's unlikely here as well.
In any case, AMD isn't saying too much else at this time. With a proof-of-concept up and running, AMD can now begin attempting to influence the necessary parties to add the feature to HDMI, and to get customers demanding the technology.
First 30Hz Minimum Refresh Rate DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync Monitor: Nixeus NX-VUE24
Along with the FreeSync-over-HDMI demo, AMD also had one bit of FreeSync news at Computex. As regular readers are likely aware, all of the current DPAS monitors have a minimum refresh rate over 30Hz – typically 40Hz or 48Hz – which unfortunately for AMD’s FreeSync efforts is counterproductive to their goals since you lose the bulk of the benefits of FreeSync when framerates fall below the minimum refresh rate. And although this is a monitor limitation rather than a DPAS/FreeSync limitation, AMD is still looking to push vendors to get lower minimum rate monitors on the market and to promote those monitors.
To that end, monitor vendor Nixeus has announced the first 30hz minimum refresh rate DPAS monitor, the NX-VUE24. The NX-VUE24 is a 24”, 1080p TN display that supports variable refresh rates from 30Hz up to 144Hz. A 1080p TN monitor is admittedly not likely to set the world on fire at this point, but it’s still an important milestone in getting 30Hz-minimum DPAS displays out in to the market. And at 1080p and just 24”, this will likely be the most affordable/cheapest variable refresh monitor yet.
Update: We also have confirmation that the NX-VUE24 supports pixel overdrive
Nixeus has not yet announced a release date or price for the monitor, but they tell us it should be coming soon.
FreeSync’s Teething Issues
Finally, while we had a chance to talk to AMD about FreeSync, we asked them about some of the barbs NVIDIA has been flinging their way lately, particularly on the subject matter of minimum refresh rates and pixel overdrive. Though NVIDIA is not above poking at AMD when it suits them, these were still important points that we wanted to hear AMD's answer to.
On the matter of pixel overdrive, AMD has clarified that pixel overdrive can work with FreeSync, but it is up to the monitor manufactures. DPAS/FreeSync doesn’t offer any control over overdrive to the video card, so whether any overdrive happens is up to the monitor manufacturer, who would need to implement it in their scaler. Ultimately pixel overdrive is not a required part of the DPAS standard, so its presence is going to be on a monitor-by-monitor basis, and the quality of any overdrive solution is up to the vendor. As with NVIDIA’s solution, this all boils down to doing frame delivery prediction and adjusting their overdrive values accordingly, with DPAS monitor manufacturers needing to do that in their scaler as part of their per-frame operations (just as how it works today on fixed refresh rate monitors.
Meanwhile on the subject of minimum refresh rates, AMD’s comments were a bit less concrete, but also a bit more optimistic. How minimum refresh periods are handled is ultimately up to FreeSync; there needs to be a refresh within the maximum pixel decay period in order to maintain the display, but it’s up to AMD how they want to do those refreshes. For 144Hz monitors this can mean just running a quick refresh over 7ms, whereas for 60Hz monitors the subject is a bit trickier since a refresh takes 16ms.
In any case the message from AMD has been that they have the ability to change their minimum refresh behavior as they see fit or as they develop better ways to handle the situation. However absent any concrete details at this time, all we can do is wait and see if and when AMD makes any changes. AMD clearly isn’t wanting to commit to anything right now, at least not until they have something ready to deploy.
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kyuu - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
Your inability to interpret any article regarding AMD without your "everything AMD does sucks because I have a weird emotional reaction to that series of letters" filter is really irritating. Nothing about the previous analysis of the technologies was inaccurate and this article does not say what you and others with your mindset seem to think.Wouldn't it be more productive for you to go and start your own totally awesome tech blog IHateAMD.com where you could cover every issue from your own warped viewpoint and leave AT in peace?
chizow - Thursday, June 4, 2015 - link
Are you done fanboying/apologizing for AMD?Great, if so I'd like how long you've been reading AT, or using the internet as your primary source of information, for that matter. AT when Anand founded it, was built on the assumption to NEVER take what the vendors said at face value. To poke, dive, dig into what was said and y'know, test the validity of those claims and in doing so, often finding some cool, unusual and interesting results of that tech, but ultimately FORCING VENDORS TO ADDRESS ISSUES which led to better products for the consumer.
Nvidia made a major breakthrough with VRR, few will discount this fact, and all the major press sites covered it and agreed it was fantastic new tech as it rolled out on the market exactly as described. Meanwhile, AMD began ramping up their usual anti-proprietary jargon, while making a ton of promises that mostly turned out to be bogus anyways.
Then they finally launch some 18 months later, and not only declare an equivalent solution, but even go as far to say it is SUPERIOR. Now, to the uninformed, like you, you take it at face value and you believe it, but sites other than AT actually noticed problems even going back as far as CES, and did what AT *USED* to be known to do. Did more in-depth testing and clearly IDENTIFIED THE PROBLEMS SO THEY COULD BE ADDRESSED. What I never understand and a large part of the reason I simply can't get behind AMD products is the proclivity of their users to try and sweep problems under the rug, as if they didn't exist. The same exact thing happened with FCAT, it is as if YOU WANT an inferior product.
In the end, you get what you pay for and yes, for as long as their products come out with these kinds of issues and their supporters, fanboys, apologists, like you, continue to meekly pretend nothing is wrong, my views and buying habits won't change, at all. Needless to say the market agrees with me, which is why we may not have to concern ourselves with AMD for much longer.
Southrncomfortjm - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
Sooo, maybe we will see FreeSync on TVs in a few years? That would be epic.Shark321 - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
no, since AMD is using a propertiary protocol for Freesync over HDMI. You will not be able no connect normal devices, only AMD GPUs.ant6n - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
I think they point is that they're trying to create a standard here, just like they did with display port v1.2a.User.Name - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
This is huge!With LG already having some monitors which support FreeSync via DisplayPort, hopefully they will be able to update their televisions to support FreeSync via HDMI.
Though there are some issues with the first generation of FreeSync panels having high minimum refresh rates and overdrive either not working at all, or only working well within an even narrower range of framerates, I am sure those will be worked out.
Minimum refresh rate seems as though it could be solved in software as long as the maximum supported refresh rate is at least double its minimum: have the GPU store the current frame and update the panel twice if the framerate is below the minimum refresh rate for that display. E.g. display 25 FPS at 50Hz on a panel which supports a variable range of 40-120Hz.
Overdriving seems like it may have been an oversight with the first-generation displays which could be solved inside the display itself - though that might raise the cost a bit.
But if they can get FreeSync into the official HDMI spec, we could potentially be seeing OLED televisions that support say 0-120Hz with no need for overdriving at all.
Shark321 - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
Since Freesync over HDMI does not use the HDMI protocol at all, I highly doubt it will be a part of the HDMI standard. Additionally HDMI consortium needs 5 years to implement even the slightest changes, see HDMI 2.0 which was in development for eternity.Ryan Smith - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link
It's a custom protocol in as much as it's not bog-standard HDMI. However it is developed as an extension to HDMI since AMD is seeking to have it integrated into the standard.Shark321 - Thursday, June 4, 2015 - link
I still doubt it will be a part of the standard within the next 3-4 years, as the HDMI consortium is the slowest organization in the world.chizow - Thursday, June 4, 2015 - link
Agreed, especially when HDMI SIG members are not the same as DP, their primary interests are in the Home Theater/consumer electronics market rather than the PC market.It will certainly create an interesting dichotomy if HDMISync ends up being proprietary to AMD. :)