The AMD Keynote at CES 2019: Looking Ahead
by Ian Cutress on January 9, 2019 6:00 AM EST11:34AM EST - AMD has one of the prized spots on the CES Keynote register. The company gets an highlighted hour at one of the shows prized ballroom setups to offer something bigger and better than any other company doing a keynote. This year, we have AMD's CEO, Dr. Lisa Su, putting forward some of AMD's vision for 2019. I'm going to be sitting as far forward as I can, both in terms of where my seat is in the hall, and on my seat itself. Come back when the keynote starts (9am Pacific, 5pm UTC) to get the low down on AMD's announcements.
11:43AM EST - We're just under 20 minutes from starting
11:45AM EST - Sitting next to TechRadar and Tom's Hardware here in the front row
11:47AM EST - This is one of the CES official keynotes, so AMD gets an hour on the official stage. This is a really nice setup
11:57AM EST - Just met up with CTO Mark Papermaster
11:57AM EST - He seems very happy and jovial. I wonder why
11:57AM EST - A few minutes to start
11:59AM EST - 'Our Keynote will begin shortly'
12:04PM EST - Lights are dimming...
12:05PM EST - Staring now
12:05PM EST - Video
12:05PM EST - 'Where does magic come from'
12:05PM EST - It's a CES opening video
12:06PM EST - >a video all about technology and magic
12:07PM EST - CTA Gary Shapiro to the stage
12:07PM EST - Had some outstanding Keynotes yesterday
12:07PM EST - Today is AMD, with CEO Dr. Lisa Su
12:08PM EST - AMD is behind much of the technology people use every day
12:08PM EST - consumer, server
12:08PM EST - AMD is 50 this year
12:08PM EST - Pushing the envelope developing processors in the industry
12:08PM EST - Lisa Su was CEO in 2014
12:08PM EST - 10 product family launches in 2017
12:09PM EST - AMD Ryzen Threadripper, first 32-core CPU
12:09PM EST - Ryzen Mobile, EPYC
12:09PM EST - redefining the landscape
12:09PM EST - AMD set to launch the first desktop 7nm CPUs and GPUs in 2019
12:10PM EST - Dr. Lisa Su was 2018 Business Person of the Year
12:10PM EST - Dr Su to the stage
12:10PM EST - Opening video
12:12PM EST - Significant moment for AMD
12:12PM EST - First ever CES Keynote
12:12PM EST - Exploring the future of computing
12:12PM EST - AMD is one of the owrld's most innovative companies
12:12PM EST - Powering the most important applications
12:12PM EST - AMD was founded as a startup
12:13PM EST - Grown into a gloabl company of 10k people
12:13PM EST - In 2000, launched first 1 GHz CPU
12:13PM EST - 2003, first x86-64 architecture
12:13PM EST - 2008 first 1 TF GPU
12:13PM EST - 2011, worlds first APUs
12:13PM EST - 2013, highest performing game consoles
12:14PM EST - Trends over the next few years
12:14PM EST - Number of connected devices has transformed every industry
12:14PM EST - 15b connected devices in 2016, expected to double by 2025
12:15PM EST - Data growth in same time is expected to 10x
12:15PM EST - 175 zettabytes in 2025
12:15PM EST - What really excites us how we deliver that performance
12:16PM EST - To do that requires new approaches
12:16PM EST - Phenomenal opportunity to create new leaders
12:16PM EST - Moore's Law is Slowing
12:17PM EST - AMD focuses on pushing innovation beyond the expected
12:17PM EST - Heterogeneous computing
12:18PM EST - Putting them all together in a single solution
12:18PM EST - Pushing the bleeding edge of high perofrmance computing is at the heart of AMD
12:18PM EST - We make decisions today that will affect us 3-5 years later
12:18PM EST - You don't know if they're going to work
12:19PM EST - Today will show a significant inflection point in perf
12:19PM EST - Lots of excitement about Zen 2 and Radeon
12:19PM EST - New system partitioning can make a massive difference
12:19PM EST - Partners will be on stage
12:20PM EST - Gaming, Cloud, Supercomputing
12:20PM EST - First, High Performance PCs
12:20PM EST - 1.5 billion installed PCs worldwide
12:20PM EST - Every year the industry shows the latest and greatest
12:21PM EST - Content creation is primarily done on the PC
12:21PM EST - This keynote has millions of pixels and lots of content to transform visual story telling
12:21PM EST - Graphics and workstations are the tools of choice for the most demanding workloads
12:22PM EST - rendering, gaming, content production
12:22PM EST - In 2017, the best processor for creators had 10 cores and cost over $1700
12:22PM EST - So AMD created threadripper
12:22PM EST - Threadripper is the #1 best selling workstation processor
12:23PM EST - 3x more performance in just a few years
12:23PM EST - Perf/$ is way up
12:24PM EST - FoxVFX use Radeon Pro GPUs
12:24PM EST - Video time
12:24PM EST - Using the best hardware to accelerate the story teller
12:24PM EST - Threadripper has created a shadow empire of rendering capability
12:25PM EST - Threadripper redefines the creative process
12:26PM EST - Covering the ultra-thin notebook
12:26PM EST - Users are choosing this category, making it the fastest growth market
12:26PM EST - AMD brings this performance to the market
12:27PM EST - Longer battery life than anything AMD has ever shipped
12:27PM EST - New 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen Mobile is much faster
12:27PM EST - Windows Modern PC features - voice wake, modern standby, 4k HDR Streaming
12:27PM EST - Up to 12 hours of battery life
12:28PM EST - Up to 10 Vega cores in ultrathin
12:28PM EST - discrete level graphics performance in an ultra-thin form factor
12:28PM EST - Lisa reads Twitter and Reddit and sees the comments that users make
12:29PM EST - From next month, Ryzen Mobile drivers will be avialable direct from AMD
12:29PM EST - Discrete graphics drivers for mobile
12:29PM EST - Ryzen 2nd Gen coming this quarter
12:30PM EST - Computers play a major role for STEM
12:30PM EST - PC is integral for how education plays today
12:32PM EST - Bronx science school uses PCs and servers in the classroom
12:33PM EST - AMD is more committed to deliver in all markets
12:33PM EST - first AMD powered Chromebooks
12:33PM EST - Leading global OEMs will release many AMD Chromebooks this year
12:33PM EST - Now for immersive devices and gaming
12:34PM EST - AMD is the only company that delivers high perf CPU and GPU for PC, Console, and Cloud gaming
12:34PM EST - 400m PC and Console gamers game on radeon graphics
12:34PM EST - Expect 15% CAGR through 2021
12:34PM EST - Gaming brings people together
12:34PM EST - Gamers love technology
12:34PM EST - AMD loves all types of gaming
12:35PM EST - Phil Spencer of Microsoft to the stage
12:35PM EST - It's great to see the growth in gaming
12:35PM EST - Talked on the news
12:35PM EST - Kids today, their first experience with technology is often through gaming
12:36PM EST - Xbox partnership
12:36PM EST - Xbox One X
12:36PM EST - Building the best versions of games
12:36PM EST - Even more indepth, one of the key features was backwards compatibility
12:36PM EST - Playing Xbox and Xbox 360 games on the latest
12:37PM EST - Playing those games better on the latest hardware
12:37PM EST - 2 billion playing video games
12:37PM EST - This is the scale of the market
12:38PM EST - We look at the next decade of gaming
12:38PM EST - Content is key
12:39PM EST - Investing in more first party content than anyone else
12:39PM EST - Gamers are communal, they like to give feedback
12:39PM EST - Community is an important part of gaming
12:39PM EST - Cloud is becoming even more critical
12:39PM EST - Playing any game on any device
12:39PM EST - Requires the silicon
12:40PM EST - Ideally needs no extra work from the developer
12:40PM EST - Bringing the content together
12:40PM EST - So what's next
12:40PM EST - Microsoft works with great companies that do great work in the right way
12:41PM EST - Having a partner such as AMD who works on future technology and at a cultural level is great
12:41PM EST - Partnerships are critically important for the future
12:41PM EST - No official announcement today
12:42PM EST - There's a lot for PC Gamers to get excited about today
12:42PM EST - Recently released the RX 590
12:42PM EST - FreeSync
12:42PM EST - Freesync is an industry standard
12:42PM EST - Freesync is the #1 adaptive sync ecosystem
12:43PM EST - Software is the fastest ramping part of AMD's business
12:43PM EST - day-0 driver support for hundreds of AAA games at launch
12:43PM EST - 2019 edition offers more features and more game performance
12:43PM EST - streaming to other devices
12:43PM EST - We know what is on gamers minds
12:43PM EST - AMD loves gamers
12:44PM EST - Time to meet the next gen of high perf gaming GPUs
12:45PM EST - AMD Radeon VII
12:45PM EST - World's first 7nm Gaming GPU
12:45PM EST - Radeon VII (Seven)
12:45PM EST - 2nd gen vega
12:45PM EST - Enthusiast level gaming
12:45PM EST - 60 Compute units, running up to 1.8 GHz
12:46PM EST - 25$ more perf at same power
12:46PM EST - 16GB HBM2
12:46PM EST - 1TB/sec memory bandwidth
12:46PM EST - All of that compute
12:46PM EST - It's the same as the Radeon Instict MI50
12:46PM EST - +30% in content creation, +62% in OpenCL, over Vega 64
12:47PM EST - Built the GPU for gamers
12:47PM EST - People who want 4K, max settings, max framerates
12:47PM EST - +35% on BF5, +25% on Fortnite, at 4K max
12:48PM EST - Async Compute, Rapid Packed Math, Shader Intrinsics
12:48PM EST - +42% Strange Brigade Vulkan vs Vega64
12:48PM EST - First time Devil May Cry 5 being shown on Radeon VII
12:49PM EST - 4K max, frame rates from 70-110 FPS
12:49PM EST - At the high end market, you need great hardware
12:49PM EST - On par with RTX 2080
12:50PM EST - Ubisoft on the stage
12:51PM EST - Explaining the partnership
12:51PM EST - The Division 2
12:51PM EST - Supporting high FPS and the best visuals
12:52PM EST - It's great to work with ambitious people
12:52PM EST - Taking advantage of what AMD has to offer
12:54PM EST - It shows the ability to collaborate
12:55PM EST - The collaboration will translate into better performance and best visuals
12:55PM EST - The Division 2 will support all of AMD's latest features on launch
12:55PM EST - Ryzen is beautiful for what we do
12:55PM EST - Games are created on PCs, and we are super committed to make the best experience
12:56PM EST - Launches on March 15th.
12:56PM EST - Everyone in the room will get a free game code
12:57PM EST - Team FNATIC to the stage
12:59PM EST - League of legends had 100m viewers
01:01PM EST - Most esports play at 1080p with max FPS and 144Hz+
01:03PM EST - Radeon VII will go on sale on Feb 7th for $699 SEP
01:03PM EST - Retail and OEM systems
01:03PM EST - Bundled with DMC5, Red Evil 2, and Division 2
01:05PM EST - Google Project Stream is using Radeon Pro, 1080p streamed at 60 FPS
01:05PM EST - Cloud based virtualized GPUs
01:06PM EST - Radeon graphics is everywhere, and Google is part of that portfolio
01:06PM EST - A lot more coming this year - next gen CPUs and GPUs
01:07PM EST - Turning to high perf compute
01:07PM EST - Applying compute to the worlds most challenging problems
01:08PM EST - Tremendous first year of EPYC
01:08PM EST - EPYC is winning in the biggest cloud environments
01:08PM EST - Save 10%+ or more to migrate to EPYC
01:08PM EST - FP perf and memory bandwidth is the ideal CPU for HPC
01:08PM EST - Space Exploration through F1
01:09PM EST - Oregon state university video
01:12PM EST - In 2019, AMD will deliver 7nm Datacenter CPUs
01:12PM EST - this is Rome
01:12PM EST - 64 core, 128 threads, 2x perf/socket, 4x FP per socket
01:13PM EST - A demo of early 64-core EPYC vs two Xeon 8180s
01:13PM EST - NAMD simulation
01:14PM EST - EPYC does 9.69 ns/day, two Xeons does 8.45 ns/day
01:15PM EST - Going to talk 2S EPYC soon
01:15PM EST - Start shipping in the mid of 2019
01:15PM EST - Now for RYZEN
01:15PM EST - CES 2019 Preview, 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Desktop
01:16PM EST - Setting the bar for performance, power, and efficiency
01:16PM EST - PC Gaming demo
01:17PM EST - On a system with 7nm CPU and 7nm GPU
01:18PM EST - Comparing Ryzen 3rd Gen to the competition
01:18PM EST - These are not final clocks
01:18PM EST - Cinebench R15, 8 core Ryzen (not final freq) vs 8-core 9900K at stock
01:19PM EST - Power numbers too
01:19PM EST - 9900K: 2040 at 180W, Ryzen: 2057 at 133W
01:19PM EST - That's system power
01:19PM EST - 30% lower system power
01:20PM EST - Either AMD is blasting ahead on IPC or Freq, or matching Intel at much lower power
01:21PM EST - One eight-core 7nm Chiplet, with a 14nm IO-die, specifically designed for desktop market
01:21PM EST - PCIe 4.0
01:22PM EST - Runs on the same AM4 desktop motherboards
01:22PM EST - Launching in mid-2019
01:22PM EST - more information to come
01:23PM EST - Lisa just mentioned Zen 5 and Navi
01:23PM EST - A lot more to come
01:23PM EST - Lisa loves semiconductors. She loves to push limits to solve tough problems
01:23PM EST - A problem is an opportunity
01:24PM EST - Coming together collectively as an industry
01:24PM EST - Building a future of high perf computing at the foundation
01:24PM EST - Looking back on 2019, we're going to see it as an inflection point in our industry
01:25PM EST - That is a wrap. Check our articles
01:25PM EST - GPU: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13832/amd-radeon-vii-high-end-7nm-february-7th-for-699
01:25PM EST - CPU: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13829/amd-ryzen-3rd-generation-zen-2-pcie-4-eight-core
01:26PM EST - We have a roundtable Q&A with Lisa Su later. Submit your questions to ian@anandtech
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Hxx - Wednesday, January 9, 2019 - link
Yep and everyone attending gets a rainbow unicornarh2o - Wednesday, January 9, 2019 - link
Similar things were said when Ryzen 1800x was introduced. Turns out it was slower than Intel's top offering. Most people said Radeon Vega 64 would demolish Nvidia when it was introduced. Turns out it was slower than Nvidia's top offering. Let's be realistic and wait for benchmarks.Flunk - Wednesday, January 9, 2019 - link
That's not true, the Ryzen 1800x was much faster than Intel's faster consumer chip at the time. It had twice as many cores! That's why Intel has been upping their consumer core count ever since.I mean, you could argue that it wasn't as fast single-core, but that's not what you wrote.
arh2o - Wednesday, January 9, 2019 - link
I meant more from a IPC standpoint but I can see your point when it comes to workstation loads. For gaming, well the 7700K crushed the 1700x at similar $ price points.The_Countess - Thursday, January 10, 2019 - link
even IPC was very similar, with AMD being only a bit behind. intels only real advantage was the higher clockspeed. and that seems to be going away now as well.BurntMyBacon - Thursday, January 10, 2019 - link
IPC of Zen/Zen+ is roughly on par with Haswell / Broadwell. Which is to say, close but not quite up to Skylake. Fortunately for AMD, Skylake IPC = Kaby Lake IPC = Kaby Lake Refresh IPC = Coffee Lake IPC = Coffee Lake refresh IPC. You are mostly correct in that clock frequencies have been by far the largest obstacle for AMD as of late.TheJian - Wednesday, January 9, 2019 - link
So true, but I still bought the stock for servers recently ;) Just can't tell how far in advance the market will move on the 64 core info. The 32 core just hit, so we'll soon see how many they are selling, but I don't think they'll take much from Intel as they are on a much more level field vs. Intel 14nm++. However, the 64 core will change that on 7nm for at least a while and that's what I'm after in the stock price. $17000 chips that even dumb management can't mess up that badly. Unlike the Navi which they seem to be blowing if rumored prices are true $249 for 1080 perf? Dumb. I'd price it at 1080 until NV lowered prices, that is how you make R&D money for next year. $20-50 extra down in this range would actually produce some REAL net income. But pricing this low just looks like market share grabs that mean nothing without margin as the little guy.NV/Intel can pull that crap to keep you from making income, but the little guy really can't as he can't bleed cash until you're R&D broke. I wish AMD would stop pricing GOOD products to death, along with their bottom line year after year.
HStewart - Wednesday, January 9, 2019 - link
You are forgetting that Intel has Ice Lake - which runs on new 10nm (Intel) which is likely as good or better than AMD 7nm and even more important Sunny Cove architexture is going to have significant impact on performance because of more cache and more importantly - more execution units.Rudde - Thursday, January 10, 2019 - link
You have to remember that Ice Lake desktop parts will launch ~1 year after Zen 2 Ryzen (3rd gen). Ice Lake will compete against Zen 3 Ryzen (4:th gen).On mobile parts and APUs however, Ice Lake will compete against Zen 2 Ryzen (4:th gen) and might even beat AMD to the market.
I see a situation where AMD gets a lead in desktop (non-APUs), while Intel continues to hold the mobile market.
bananaforscale - Wednesday, January 9, 2019 - link
The "leaks" we've seen so far are unrealistic at the top end. The 3800X *will not* be 16 cores at ~100W TDP and 4.7 GHz.