AMD Announces FirePro W9100by Ryan Smith on March 26, 2014 1:00 PM EST
In what’s proving to be a busy week for GPU news, AMD has just wrapped up their webcast announcing their next flagship FirePro product. Dubbed the FirePro W9100, AMD’s latest card is their expected refresh of their FirePro product lineup to integrate the company’s recently launched Hawaii family of processors.
As Hawaii itself was a small but important refresh to Tahiti and the GCN architecture, the same can be said of the FirePro W9100 compared to the FirePro W9000. Other than some gaming-exclusive features such as TrueAudio, Hawaii’s biggest changes were the Asynchronous Compute Engine (ACE) additions that are part of GCN 1.1, the wider 4 primitive geometry pipeline, and of course the overall increase in performance and performance per watt compared to Tahiti. So from a technical perspective W9100 stands to be a relatively straightforward improvement to what W9000 has offered thus far.
|AMD FirePro W Series Specification Comparison|
|AMD FirePro W9100||AMD FirePro W9000||AMD FirePro W8000||AMD FirePro W7000|
|Memory Clock||?||5.5GHz GDDR5||5.5GHz GDDR5||4.8GHz GDDR5|
|Memory Bus Width||?||384-bit||256-bit||256-bit|
|Manufacturing Process||TSMC 28nm||TSMC 28nm||TSMC 28nm||TSMC 28nm|
|Architecture||GCN 1.1||GCN 1.0||GCN 1.0||GCN 1.0|
As far as specifications are concerned, it should come as no surprise that W9100 is going to look a lot like AMD’s Radeon R9 290X, their flagship consumer product. W9100 uses a fully enabled Hawaii GPU, so we’re looking at 2816 SPs spread out over 44 CUs. Unfortunately we don’t have the clockspeeds at this time, so we don’t know just how much faster W9100 is on paper versus W9000. However the increase in CUs alone is on the order of 38%, and this doesn’t take into account the improved ACEs and memory bus feeding Hawaii
Speaking of the memory bus, we don’t have the specific width or clockspeeds there either, but we know that AMD has packed W9100 with a ton of memory. 16GB of memory to be precise, which would be as much memory as Hawaii would be able to handle using current generation 8Gb GDDR5 modules. Compared to even W9000, which was relatively large for its time at 6GB, this is huge for a workstation card.
Meanwhile it’s interesting to note that while AMD hasn’t published clockspeed numbers they have published rough performance numbers for both FP32 and FP64. FP32 is rated for over 5 GFLOPS and FP64 is rated for over 2 GFLOPS. The math on that doesn’t work out conclusively – if it’s anything like NVIDIA’s GK110, then there may be additional power requirements that influence performance under FP64 mode – but these numbers point to Hawaii having 1/2 rate FP64 performance. As a reminder 290X was rated at 1/8, so this would mean Hawaii has a much higher rate than what was enabled on AMD’s consumer cards. In fact this would put Hawaii’s native FP64 rate (as a ratio of FP32 performance) as being higher than any other GPU, the next-closest GPU being NVIDIA’s GK110 at 1/3 rate FP64.
Beyond that, we don’t have any further details on the card at this time. W9100 is not launching today – we hear the launch should be soon after – so availability and pricing have not been released thus far. The best we can do is point to the W9000’s launch price of $3999 as some kind of guidance on where it may come in.
Shifting gears for a bit, while AMD was careful on releasing details ahead of the launch of the W9100, they spent some time going in depth into how the card fits into their long-term plans, and what markets they’re pursuing with the card. FirePro continues to pull double duty as AMD’s workstation graphics card and workstation compute card, centered around the capabilities of OpenCL. So AMD is looking to put together a product that can serve both markets well, especially in the case of cross-over applications that make use of both aspects of the card.
Of those aspects, AMD is definitely pushing the compute side harder this time around as opposed to the FirePro W9000 launch in 2012, as the nature of the market has changed. Traditional graphics-heavy professional applications (e.g. AutoCAD) are still as power hungry as ever – if not more so due to the rise of 4K monitors – and meanwhile the amount of compute work being generated by these programs is increasing. This goes for both programs using compute in a more straightforward way, such as running mechanical simulations, and programs leveraging compute for graphics related tasks such as video encoding and image processing. And for both of these tasks AMD is banking on their 16GB of VRAM giving them a performance advantage due to the larger working sets such a large memory configuration can hold.
On that note, AMD has published a few benchmarks ahead of the launch of the card. But as always, these are best take with a grain of salt as they’re almost certainly best-case numbers for their hardware and software stack.
Moving on, along with the announcement of the W9100, AMD has also announced that they will be introducing a new workstation branding initiative to go with the card. Dubbed the “Ultra Workstation” initiative, the program will have 3 tiers of workstations, indicating how many GPUs they have in them and what kind of tasks AMD is recommending for them based on resource requirements and how well major applications scale to that many GPUs.
All of the Ultra Workstation tiers will have a minimum of 32GB of system memory, at least one 8 core CPU, and of course at least one W9100.
Finally, the launch of the W9100 also brings with it a brief update on AMD’s overall transformation in their product offerings, and their current market share. AMD’s share of the professional GPU market is up to 18%, which is still well off of their heyday years ago, but a solid improvement from where they were at the launch of the W9000. To that end professional graphics and compute continues to represent a major growth opportunity for the company, as the other 82% of that market share belongs to NVIDIA, and stealing even a small part of it would significantly improve AMD’s position. Next to their APU offerings – including semi-custom designs and ARM designs – the discrete GPU market for professional graphics is AMD’s final target for significant growth.
Part of that growth will in turn come from essential OEM wins. AMD’s win of the GPU contract for Apples recently launched Mac Pro is a big deal for the company, as you’d expect, as the Mac Pro is a very prestigious win. It remains to be seen just what it means for sales volumes of AMD FirePro products, but it’s a win that AMD can promote to software developers and potential customers alike.
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ddriver - Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - linkI am actually very excited about this product. I like AMDs strategy to offer significantly better DP performance for the buck compared to nvidia. This is my sole purchase decision since all I need the GPUs for is OpenCL and DP data crunching.
g101 - Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - linkHeh, funny how both of our needs are met by this one product.
I need single precision and actual opencl support like you (rather than the nonsense nvidia offers).
Luckily, I can get away with the desktop AMD gpus since I don't need ECC or the display port optimizations/driver validation of the firepro line.
However, the real difference/attraction for me with Firepros are the frame buffers...in this case, 16GB per die would be incredibly useful...Might have to bite the bullet due to that alone!
extide - Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - linkIf you can live with 8GB ther are 290X's out there. (Sapphire)
sascha - Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - linkMe too, AMD has great GPUs! I just wish OpenCL would evolve faster and their FirePro line would be cheaper but on the other hand why should they do me the latter favor...
MrSpadge - Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - linkJust use a proper cooler and the chip temperature is nothing more to worry about than for any other 200+ W high end GPU.
blanarahul - Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - linkSo, AMD one upped even NVIDIA with FP64 performance. Boy am I impressed.
tomhefley - Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - linkI actually build machines in my area for engineering firms who use Solidworks. None of them opt for these high end cards. They are just too expensive. While I do 3930k and 4930k and ECC memory, they opt for off the shelf consumer cards. Some of these firms have contracts with Ford, Chrysler, Nascar and many other companies. The lure for them of course is price. They are comfortable paying $3500 a machine vs $5500 - $8000. I've tried to push several of my clients toward the AMD FirePro W7000 as I can get these cards for around $500 but they still pass.
extide - Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - linkYeah Solidworks guys aren't the target for these.
g101 - Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - linkWhy are you linking to some game on amazon and incapable of understanding thermal targets?
Ban that 'EduardoHRami' idiot.
Anyways, yes it does appear AMD took a marketing note from nvidia with regards to regular desktop Hawaii and the 1/8th double precision.
Still far more generous than nvidia's ratio, though I would like to see AMD go for the throat and release firepro display port optimization and full double precision across all their cards...That would be a serious shakeup.
Still, this is one hell of a single-die GPU.
ac1dra1n - Thursday, March 27, 2014 - linkI would be willing to bet that the W9100 will have a 512 bit bus. Is there anything technical that would argue against that?