AMD Launches Ryzen 7 2800H & Ryzen 5 2600H APUs for High-Performance Laptopsby Anton Shilov on September 18, 2018 12:30 PM EST
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AMD has quietly added two new APUs into its lineup of products. Based on AMD's existing Raven Ridge silicon, the new Ryzen 7 2800H and Ryzen 5 2600H chips with integrated Radeon graphics consume up to 45 W and are aimed at high-performance laptops.
AMD’s Ryzen 5 2600H and Ryzen 7 2800H APUs pack four Zen cores with SMT enable, and run at 3.2 and 3.3 GHz base frequency (respectively). Meanwhile graphics is provided by the integrated Radeon RX Vega 8 or Vega 11 iGPU. The new APUs clock their general-purpose cores significantly higher (1 GHz+) when compared to AMD’s lower-power Ryzen 5 2500U and Ryzen 7 2700U APUs that were introduced last year, but at the cost of a 3x higher TDP. Meanwhile, the new chips feature exactly the same integrated graphics, featuring 512 or 704 stream processors and clocked at 1.1 GHz and 1.3 GHz.
AMD’s latest H-series APUs use with a 45 W default TDP can be configured down or up to support 35 W or 54 W TDPs, giving AMD's customers a range of options for balancing performance with energy efficiency. As for form-factors, the Ryzen 5 2600H and Ryzen 7 2800H chips use the FP5 packaging, the same as used by other mobile processors from AMD. One thing to keep in mind is that since the new APUs are considerably more power hungry than their U-series counterparts, laptop makers will still have to install them into an appropriate chassis.
|AMD Ryzen 2000 H-Series APUs|
|Cores||4 / 8|
|Base CPU Freq||3.2 GHz||3.3 GHz|
|Turbo CPU Freq||3.6 GHz||3.8 GHz|
|TDP @ Base||45 W|
|cTDP||35 - 54 W|
|L2 Cache||512 KB/core|
|L3 Cache||4 MB|
|Graphics||Vega 8||Vega 11|
|Compute Units||8 CUs||11 CUs|
|Streaming Processors||512 SPs||704 SPs|
|Turbo GPU Freq||1100 MHz||1300 MHz|
|DRAM Support||DDR4-3200 Dual Channel|
AMD has not issued any press releases on the matter, but simply added the new APUs into its list of its products. Therefore, we do not have any official information concerning pricing and availability of new processors at hand. In the meantime, we do know that Lenovo has listed AMD’s H-series mobile APUs already, so expect the company to offer laptops powered by such processors in the coming months.
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Novaguy - Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - linkI had hoped that AMD would put out a ryzen version of the i7-8705G, with vega 20-24 graphics (1280-1536 sps) and 4 gb of hbm. That would be more interesting in a laptop context and help avoid the memory speed/channel issues that have plagued AMD laptops since they went to apus...…
This is just a higher wattage sped up version of what they already have, and I suspect most laptops that actually make it to the market would come with ddr4-2400 memory, not ddr4-3200...
Batmeat - Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - linkWhat I think is interesting is the 2800H. If this chip exists, then it's almost certain the 2800X exists too.
Novaguy - Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - linkThere's probably no 2800X being planned - although I guess yet another special bin could potentially exist but this is probably the specially binned chip for laptops.
the 2800H is not a bad idea and could do well on the market, but it is essentially the same chip as the Ryzen 5 2400g (for desktops), just with a lower TDP but higher max memory in the specifications. It is also very similar to the Ryzen 7 2700U, but with a higher TDP and one extra CU. So you can kind of get an idea of the performance by looking at Ryzen 5 2400G desktops and Ryzen 7 2700U laptops and then factoring in the differences in memory speeds, TDPs, laptop build, and extra CU (relative to the 2700U).
Novaguy - Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - linkOh, wait, you're referring to a special binned 8/16 version of the r7 2800X, not these 4/8 with vegas.
that almost certainly will happen. they'll wait until intel comes out with their 8/16 i9.
SaberKOG91 - Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - linkI think it's more likely that they'll release an updated 8 core Threadripper like they did last year.
Valantar - Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - linkThreadripper has a lot of drawbacks (mainly latency-related) that make it largely unsuitable for gaming and normal consumer workloads. An updated 8-core TR is not a replacement for or an alternative to an 8-core Ryzen.
deil - Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - linkI agree with you :) they will maneuver with TDP to make sure 2800X will be at least as fast as intel i9. Probably 105-135 W range.
Valantar - Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - linkWhy? There's no relation between the two product lines beyond the base Zen core desing. Different silicon, different markets, different needs. Just because they use the 2800 name in mobile doesn't mean they'll do so in desktop.
MrSpadge - Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - link> would come with ddr4-2400 memory, not ddr4-3200...
Don't forget that it has to be single channel for AMD APUs!
More serious: is there any DDR4-3200 in SO-DIMM form factor yet?
Alexvrb - Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - linkI've actually seen quite a few Ryzen Mobile laptops running in dual channel, at halfway decent speeds. The situation is certainly much better than it was pre-Ryzen.
There are SO-DIMMs running at 3200 and probably higher speeds, and as they see official support (which even a non-boutique system can take advantage of) there will likely be more.