Well Anand, Ted Turner released that article in Charlottesville local papers. Customizing the article for the local stations he bought in your home town. He's just a struggling BIG guy kicking up dirt for sympathy in the local governments (to make enough noise for the federal government to pay more attention). I think Moore is like most educated people in his opinion of the mass media. It's mostly a waste of everyones time. I don't know a lot of intellegent people that watch CNN or MSNBC and take it as gospel before some of the reporting done at nonprofit outlets like NPR/PBS. They worry more about content than shares.
Glad to see most folks think F911 was a really worthless movie. I suppose Bush is giving less money to Isreal considering the producer of the flick.
Speaking of the movie; I wished that Ray Bradbury would have sued Moore into the poorhouse for stealing his name. Bradbury is an American we can be proud of and probably has more dignity than to engage in all that.
He even waited 6 months at Moore's request to settle the problem and Moore didn't even call him back. What a POS.
I have seen a lot of criticism about Bush and the stance our country has taken on the war with Iraq. I think instead of taking the country over we should have just pulled out of Saudia Arabia, since most of the terrorists including Bin Laden came from there to begin with. Saudia Arabia also bankrolled the 9/11 attack, but I did not see them offer to pay us to rebuild!
This whole situation was a problem because Sadam did not choose to keep his end of the bargain and kept locking on to the planes in the no-fly zone. We had to do something to bring this 10+ year conflict to an end. Anything is better than the present 50+ year standoff we have in North Korea. I would have rathered us just pull out of Iraq and said to them to help themselves.
One problem the US had is that France and Germany and even Koffee Ahnan were making money off of the food for oil program and for that reason Europe did not want that program to come to an end. Europe is partly to blame for mismanaging the whole problem just to placate their greedy greased palms.
I liked Bowling for Columbine and I came away with exactly what you describe, the feeling that the mass media was criticized not gun ownership. Unfortunately, his latest film did not continue this tradition. Its basicly a rehash of what the media has already reported with his own spin on it (spin is unavidable, but it was a bit much) and one overly long sequence with a mother who lost a son in Iraq. Not the indictment of the media I was hoping for. And for the record, I agree with a lot of the Moore's opinions I just don't think he backed them up well in the movie. Emotional, yes, but a reasoned argument against Bush, no.
If you do want to see some criticism of the media, watch The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (on Comedy Central if you can get it). Sadly, a comedy show is the closest thing I've found to an impartial news source in america. To paraphrase Jon Stewart (since I can't remember it exactly): "Unfortunately, we're a fake news show, so when you compare our integrity to that of other news shows... well... we're about equal actually."
Michael Moore made another movie before "Bowling for Columbine", it's "Roger & Me". It goes to the roots of his home town, Flint, MI. After seeing the movie and having seen his two other movies it'll all click that some how everything in his world revolves around Flint, MI, no questions asked.
After seeing F911, I believe it is a pretty bad movie. While it may be factual, I felt that it was basically a re-hash of everything that has been on the news for the past year, and that it didn't bring anything new to the table. IMO it went for cheap laughs over any real content.
There were a couple interesting stories, but overall, I was very unimpressed given the amount of hype it had.
I actually liked BforC, and came away with a similar impression regarding the mass media and was impressed by Marylin Manson. Overall, I thought BforC was much better than F911, even though the first may have stretched the facts and the second was truthful. Also, it's possible that I went in to F911 with my expectations way too high, and instead found that it was just the same old junk I could see on the news every day.
I am no Bush fan by any means, and was very disappointed with the decision to move into Iraq, but now that we are there I hope we will see this mistake through to its conclusion and maybe something good will come out of this. I only mention this because my dislike for F911 has nothing to do with my feelings on Bush.
Anyhow, If you really want to see F911, I would wait for it to come out on video since there really is no reason to see it on the big screen IMO.
As far as Movies to see, two I can think of that sounded good are:
Corporation (mentioned above)
Control Room (about Al Jezeera)
I already work at a relatively big company though, so I probably don't need to see Corporation, since I bet I experience it every day.
How can anyone in the US be happy to have a president who can't even talk? The current administration is spreading FUD via the mass media, most of the world doesn't think what the US does makes sense and Halliburton et al are earning big money by sweeping US taxpayers money.
The US president and his administration are mocking the US people and still roughly 50% are perfectly fine with it. Just like the Iraqis that were fine with Saddam in power because, frankly, they didn't really care and they took everything Saddam told them for truth. They were just uber-happy to get "Yay Saddam" flags and wave them on national holidays, just like the americans waving american flags and shouting that noone will take their freedom away.
I guess the only thing that can remotely shake those people is the increase in gas price since that will make driving their pickup trucks more expensive.
The criticism of Fahrenheit 9/11 is way overblown. Unless you’re a total Republican partisan, the film’s take on Bush isn’t very controversial. Rich people get rich. Poor people get poorer—and then die in Iraq.
Cynical Gen Xers like myself won’t find it earthshaking.
I can't imagine that you have any "free time" but if you like "kill Bill" consider watching the "Zatoichi" series that Quentin watched to get ideas to make "Kill Bill". very cool! If you have time to read, try "World on Fire" by Amy Chua. You will never look at globalization and ethnic hatred, free markets or imposing democracy on third world countries/economies the same way again.
They're coming, I will address that in today's Macdate :)
Stuart
I appreciate your comments and it's good to see that we can have pro and anti-bush supporters in the same thread having a civilized discussion. I think you hit the nail on the head with your comment about sports teams.
I never think either side of the fence is completely right, it's always a compromise between the two that ends up being the best overall solution. But then again, who ever roots for both teams in basketball? Maybe more people should :)
It's even worse than that. People here turn on the news and see so much hatred for the US, especially from the middle east, and no one is ever told why - other than the vague and horribly incorrect "they just hate freedom" garbage that's spewed all too often. Doesn't anyone ever wonder what made Iraq such a mess in the first place? All we hear about in World War I is about who started it and who won, the ramifications of the war on the middle east are rarely touched or understood. We hear - Germany lost - end of story. Does anyone wonder how Bin Laden got to have such a powerful army of devote supporters?
A "problem" with our short presidential terms is that the decisions that are made while someone is in office are only designed with a maximum 8-year scope in mind. It's a great defense against a dictator staying in power indefinitely, but it's also a great way to ensure that the jobs of future presidents are spent fixing the mistakes of past presidents.
I agree with you GT to some degree on Iraq. I thought it was the right decision to go in, but it's a decision that honestly should have been made long ago. If you're going to "free" people then do it at the first signs of injustice, not almost 20 years later and then claim it was to free the people. But I do agree that now that we've done it, we need to stay and finish the job.
There was a point in middle eastern history that the middle east actually favored the US - it's been in relatively recently (past few decades) that the tides have turned to hatred.
It's not an easy problem to solve, but educating the masses is a critical and necessary step to bridging the gap in my opinion. It's not like people in the middle east get up every day and think of ways to hate America; and on the flip side, it's not like Americans get up every day and think of ways to invade and oppress middle easterners - yet I think to a certain extent, people on both sides may believe a bit of that.
As far as Moore goes, I don't like that he takes things out of context (if the allegations are indeed true). However the one thing I've realized is that the people that have criticized Moore in the past are largely much more confrontational than Moore himself. By reading all the debate about Moore I expected Bowling to be a clearly biased overly liberal movie about gun control, and maybe it's just me but I didn't see that at all.
I don't believe Moore does the best job of bringing these issues to light, but he does a better job than anyone else I've seen.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I honestly think the media has failed in a number of areas recently, especially when it comes to educating the masses on why things are the way they are. Too many people have died already, we lost thousands of innocent lives on 9/11 and more since then. Yet the public is only being told how many died, not why. Organizations like CNN, Fox News, etc... should exhibit a bit more responsibility and try to put out news that's a bit more informative than what they do. It's like only posting benchmark graphs and no architectural information on why a chip performs the way it does when we review one - a lot of you would go elsewhere for your reviews. The problem with world news is that there are no alternatives that do a better job.
Just for reference, I find myself on the Pro-Bush side of the fence. I feel that the "documentAnand,
Just for reference, I am on the Pro-Bush side of the fence. I feel that the "documentaries," mentioned above are more interested in proving their points, than in telling the *whole* story. IE what Adam said. I would also argue that the "right" choice in life isn't always an easy choice. Sometimes it's lose (Fight an unpopular war) - lose (Back down after n UN resolutions & related violations). However, I understand that politics is very much like sports, in that you always see your "team's" motives as pure, and the other "team's" motives/actions as wrong.
HOWEVER, what really made me post, was to thank you for posting your political thoughts in an appropriate forum, like this Blog. Too often I see political swipes sneak into my favorite websites and TV shows. I'm talking about places like this site's competitors and shows like TechTV's X-Play. I've never noticed anything like that on Anandtech though. Kudos to you and your crew!
Here is the web address of a critic of Farenheit 911. This is the most intelligent and careful critic I have read. He hyperlinks extensively to his sources (as well as to any relevant rebuttals (usually indirect) by Michael Moore). The writer is a libertarian and a contributor to the conservative National Review. He does nitpick in some cases; nonethelss, for its careful logic and links to a huge variety of sources it is worth a look.
And here is an example of one of the worst "deceits" -- actually this is flat out distortion.
...
Fahrenheit shows Condoleezza Rice saying, "Oh, indeed there is a tie between Iraq and what happened on 9/11." The audience laughs derisively. Here is what Rice really said on the CBS Early Show, Nov. 28, 2003:
Oh, indeed there is a tie between Iraq and what happened on 9/11. It?s not that Saddam Hussein was somehow himself and his regime involved in 9/11, but, if you think about what caused 9/11, it is the rise of ideologies of hatred that lead people to drive airplanes into buildings in New York. This is a great terrorist, international terrorist network that is determined to defeat freedom. It has perverted Islam from a peaceful religion into one in which they call on it for violence. And they're all linked. And Iraq is a central front because, if and when, and we will, we change the nature of Iraq to a place that is peaceful and democratic and prosperous in the heart of the Middle East, you will begin to change the Middle East....
Moore deceptively cut the Rice quote to fool the audience into thinking she was making a particular claim, even though she was pointedly not making such a claim. And since Rice spoke in November 2003, her quote had nothing to do with building up American fears before the March 2003 invasion, although Moore implies otherwise.
As GTaudiophile said, there's definitely far more anti-Americanism around than before Bush. I live in Europe, in one of the more US-friendly countries even, and I'd be hard pressed to find anyone here who has the least respect for the US foreign policy. ;)
Don't underestimate the disgust the rest of the world feels at Bush's foreign policy...
That said, people generally don't have a problem with individual americans (except the ignorant flag-waving kind, who feels that questioning things == being unpatriotic, and being unpatriotic == the ultimate crime)
I'm not sure if anti-americanism is even the right word. It's not that people dislike the country, or the individuals living there.
Anand: am over here in Munich, Germany at the moment on a business trip + vacation. Because I speak German almost fluently and am able to "blend in" to the point that most people approach me as a German, I have the distinct advantage of being able observe yet not actually experience modern european anti-Americanism. The hostility and tension certainly does seem much higher than in years past. #
Having said that, many (young) American tourists deserve such antagonism simply because the majority are loud and abnoxious, finding humor in smashing beer bottles on public streets at four in the morning! But such events aside, a lot of the increased anti-Americanism can indeed be attributed to the Bush Administration.
How do I feel personally? Iraq was a bad move, but now that we are there, we have a job to see to its end. I also am an optimist: I like to wonder what the world may be like in 20 years if Iraq is a prosperous democracy in the Middle East and maybe, just maybe, even the most die-hard liberals will end up appreciating Bush's efforts.
I have another movie to add to your list. It is call "Outfoxed". It is about how Fox News Channel is totally for the Right and over sesationalizes everything. It is on DVD at Amazon and is now being released at theaters in LA, DC, SF, NYC and Seattle this week. You can find more here:
Another movie you need to add is "The Corporation." It might make you think twice about your corporation's responsibility to our planet. (I am kidding, Anand, I know that you are a world conscious, intelligent person.) But you should go see it. You will never drink milk from cows treated with bovine growth hormone again! (if you even drink it today).
Have a good weekend, and thanks for coming back to your blog more.
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schmoe - Tuesday, September 7, 2004 - link
Well Anand, Ted Turner released that article in Charlottesville local papers. Customizing the article for the local stations he bought in your home town. He's just a struggling BIG guy kicking up dirt for sympathy in the local governments (to make enough noise for the federal government to pay more attention). I think Moore is like most educated people in his opinion of the mass media. It's mostly a waste of everyones time. I don't know a lot of intellegent people that watch CNN or MSNBC and take it as gospel before some of the reporting done at nonprofit outlets like NPR/PBS. They worry more about content than shares.Wotan - Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - link
Glad to see most folks think F911 was a really worthless movie. I suppose Bush is giving less money to Isreal considering the producer of the flick.Speaking of the movie; I wished that Ray Bradbury would have sued Moore into the poorhouse for stealing his name. Bradbury is an American we can be proud of and probably has more dignity than to engage in all that.
He even waited 6 months at Moore's request to settle the problem and Moore didn't even call him back. What a POS.
Anonymous - Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - link
Coffee Anyone?Charles - Monday, August 16, 2004 - link
I have seen a lot of criticism about Bush and the stance our country has taken on the war with Iraq. I think instead of taking the country over we should have just pulled out of Saudia Arabia, since most of the terrorists including Bin Laden came from there to begin with. Saudia Arabia also bankrolled the 9/11 attack, but I did not see them offer to pay us to rebuild!This whole situation was a problem because Sadam did not choose to keep his end of the bargain and kept locking on to the planes in the no-fly zone. We had to do something to bring this 10+ year conflict to an end. Anything is better than the present 50+ year standoff we have in North Korea. I would have rathered us just pull out of Iraq and said to them to help themselves.
One problem the US had is that France and Germany and even Koffee Ahnan were making money off of the food for oil program and for that reason Europe did not want that program to come to an end. Europe is partly to blame for mismanaging the whole problem just to placate their greedy greased palms.
Whillowhim - Saturday, August 14, 2004 - link
I liked Bowling for Columbine and I came away with exactly what you describe, the feeling that the mass media was criticized not gun ownership. Unfortunately, his latest film did not continue this tradition. Its basicly a rehash of what the media has already reported with his own spin on it (spin is unavidable, but it was a bit much) and one overly long sequence with a mother who lost a son in Iraq. Not the indictment of the media I was hoping for. And for the record, I agree with a lot of the Moore's opinions I just don't think he backed them up well in the movie. Emotional, yes, but a reasoned argument against Bush, no.If you do want to see some criticism of the media, watch The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (on Comedy Central if you can get it). Sadly, a comedy show is the closest thing I've found to an impartial news source in america. To paraphrase Jon Stewart (since I can't remember it exactly): "Unfortunately, we're a fake news show, so when you compare our integrity to that of other news shows... well... we're about equal actually."
Colby - Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - link
Michael Moore made another movie before "Bowling for Columbine", it's "Roger & Me". It goes to the roots of his home town, Flint, MI. After seeing the movie and having seen his two other movies it'll all click that some how everything in his world revolves around Flint, MI, no questions asked.-Colby
bonesdad - Monday, August 9, 2004 - link
#6, you suggest we watch, what, FOX news?D'oh! - Saturday, August 7, 2004 - link
After seeing F911, I believe it is a pretty bad movie. While it may be factual, I felt that it was basically a re-hash of everything that has been on the news for the past year, and that it didn't bring anything new to the table. IMO it went for cheap laughs over any real content.There were a couple interesting stories, but overall, I was very unimpressed given the amount of hype it had.
I actually liked BforC, and came away with a similar impression regarding the mass media and was impressed by Marylin Manson. Overall, I thought BforC was much better than F911, even though the first may have stretched the facts and the second was truthful. Also, it's possible that I went in to F911 with my expectations way too high, and instead found that it was just the same old junk I could see on the news every day.
I am no Bush fan by any means, and was very disappointed with the decision to move into Iraq, but now that we are there I hope we will see this mistake through to its conclusion and maybe something good will come out of this. I only mention this because my dislike for F911 has nothing to do with my feelings on Bush.
Anyhow, If you really want to see F911, I would wait for it to come out on video since there really is no reason to see it on the big screen IMO.
As far as Movies to see, two I can think of that sounded good are:
Corporation (mentioned above)
Control Room (about Al Jezeera)
I already work at a relatively big company though, so I probably don't need to see Corporation, since I bet I experience it every day.
-D'oh!
Adam K. - Saturday, August 7, 2004 - link
Hey Anand!I noticed: you have changed the formatting of your blog !3! times today; from normal, to justified, to now right justified!
Which one are you going to settle on?
yodeldee - Saturday, August 7, 2004 - link
How can anyone in the US be happy to have a president who can't even talk? The current administration is spreading FUD via the mass media, most of the world doesn't think what the US does makes sense and Halliburton et al are earning big money by sweeping US taxpayers money.The US president and his administration are mocking the US people and still roughly 50% are perfectly fine with it. Just like the Iraqis that were fine with Saddam in power because, frankly, they didn't really care and they took everything Saddam told them for truth. They were just uber-happy to get "Yay Saddam" flags and wave them on national holidays, just like the americans waving american flags and shouting that noone will take their freedom away.
I guess the only thing that can remotely shake those people is the increase in gas price since that will make driving their pickup trucks more expensive.
bluewall21 - Friday, August 6, 2004 - link
You should also read Michael Moore's book, Dude, Where's My Country.Gino - Friday, August 6, 2004 - link
The criticism of Fahrenheit 9/11 is way overblown. Unless you’re a total Republican partisan, the film’s take on Bush isn’t very controversial. Rich people get rich. Poor people get poorer—and then die in Iraq.Cynical Gen Xers like myself won’t find it earthshaking.
See the movie before criticizing it.
roostercrows - Friday, August 6, 2004 - link
I can't imagine that you have any "free time" but if you like "kill Bill" consider watching the "Zatoichi" series that Quentin watched to get ideas to make "Kill Bill". very cool! If you have time to read, try "World on Fire" by Amy Chua. You will never look at globalization and ethnic hatred, free markets or imposing democracy on third world countries/economies the same way again.Kerry 04 - Friday, August 6, 2004 - link
Anand,You should go here http://www.michaelmoore.com/warroom/f911notes/ it's Michael Moore's direct response to david kopel's article. Michael has proof and cites sources as well.
Anand Lal Shimpi - Friday, August 6, 2004 - link
PorBleemoThey're coming, I will address that in today's Macdate :)
Stuart
I appreciate your comments and it's good to see that we can have pro and anti-bush supporters in the same thread having a civilized discussion. I think you hit the nail on the head with your comment about sports teams.
I never think either side of the fence is completely right, it's always a compromise between the two that ends up being the best overall solution. But then again, who ever roots for both teams in basketball? Maybe more people should :)
Take care,
Anand
Anand Lal Shimpi - Friday, August 6, 2004 - link
GTaudiophileIt's even worse than that. People here turn on the news and see so much hatred for the US, especially from the middle east, and no one is ever told why - other than the vague and horribly incorrect "they just hate freedom" garbage that's spewed all too often. Doesn't anyone ever wonder what made Iraq such a mess in the first place? All we hear about in World War I is about who started it and who won, the ramifications of the war on the middle east are rarely touched or understood. We hear - Germany lost - end of story. Does anyone wonder how Bin Laden got to have such a powerful army of devote supporters?
A "problem" with our short presidential terms is that the decisions that are made while someone is in office are only designed with a maximum 8-year scope in mind. It's a great defense against a dictator staying in power indefinitely, but it's also a great way to ensure that the jobs of future presidents are spent fixing the mistakes of past presidents.
I agree with you GT to some degree on Iraq. I thought it was the right decision to go in, but it's a decision that honestly should have been made long ago. If you're going to "free" people then do it at the first signs of injustice, not almost 20 years later and then claim it was to free the people. But I do agree that now that we've done it, we need to stay and finish the job.
There was a point in middle eastern history that the middle east actually favored the US - it's been in relatively recently (past few decades) that the tides have turned to hatred.
It's not an easy problem to solve, but educating the masses is a critical and necessary step to bridging the gap in my opinion. It's not like people in the middle east get up every day and think of ways to hate America; and on the flip side, it's not like Americans get up every day and think of ways to invade and oppress middle easterners - yet I think to a certain extent, people on both sides may believe a bit of that.
As far as Moore goes, I don't like that he takes things out of context (if the allegations are indeed true). However the one thing I've realized is that the people that have criticized Moore in the past are largely much more confrontational than Moore himself. By reading all the debate about Moore I expected Bowling to be a clearly biased overly liberal movie about gun control, and maybe it's just me but I didn't see that at all.
I don't believe Moore does the best job of bringing these issues to light, but he does a better job than anyone else I've seen.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I honestly think the media has failed in a number of areas recently, especially when it comes to educating the masses on why things are the way they are. Too many people have died already, we lost thousands of innocent lives on 9/11 and more since then. Yet the public is only being told how many died, not why. Organizations like CNN, Fox News, etc... should exhibit a bit more responsibility and try to put out news that's a bit more informative than what they do. It's like only posting benchmark graphs and no architectural information on why a chip performs the way it does when we review one - a lot of you would go elsewhere for your reviews. The problem with world news is that there are no alternatives that do a better job.
Take care,
Anand
Stuart - Friday, August 6, 2004 - link
Anand,Just for reference, I find myself on the Pro-Bush side of the fence. I feel that the "documentAnand,
Just for reference, I am on the Pro-Bush side of the fence. I feel that the "documentaries," mentioned above are more interested in proving their points, than in telling the *whole* story. IE what Adam said. I would also argue that the "right" choice in life isn't always an easy choice. Sometimes it's lose (Fight an unpopular war) - lose (Back down after n UN resolutions & related violations). However, I understand that politics is very much like sports, in that you always see your "team's" motives as pure, and the other "team's" motives/actions as wrong.
HOWEVER, what really made me post, was to thank you for posting your political thoughts in an appropriate forum, like this Blog. Too often I see political swipes sneak into my favorite websites and TV shows. I'm talking about places like this site's competitors and shows like TechTV's X-Play. I've never noticed anything like that on Anandtech though. Kudos to you and your crew!
PorBleemo - Friday, August 6, 2004 - link
Speaking of Macdate, when could we expect an article for the Macintosh section? :)Adam - Friday, August 6, 2004 - link
Anand,Here is the web address of a critic of Farenheit 911. This is the most intelligent and careful critic I have read. He hyperlinks extensively to his sources (as well as to any relevant rebuttals (usually indirect) by Michael Moore). The writer is a libertarian and a contributor to the conservative National Review. He does nitpick in some cases; nonethelss, for its careful logic and links to a huge variety of sources it is worth a look.
http://www.davidkopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-...
And here is an example of one of the worst "deceits" -- actually this is flat out distortion.
...
Fahrenheit shows Condoleezza Rice saying, "Oh, indeed there is a tie between Iraq and what happened on 9/11." The audience laughs derisively. Here is what Rice really said on the CBS Early Show, Nov. 28, 2003:
Oh, indeed there is a tie between Iraq and what happened on 9/11. It?s not that Saddam Hussein was somehow himself and his regime involved in 9/11, but, if you think about what caused 9/11, it is the rise of ideologies of hatred that lead people to drive airplanes into buildings in New York. This is a great terrorist, international terrorist network that is determined to defeat freedom. It has perverted Islam from a peaceful religion into one in which they call on it for violence. And they're all linked. And Iraq is a central front because, if and when, and we will, we change the nature of Iraq to a place that is peaceful and democratic and prosperous in the heart of the Middle East, you will begin to change the Middle East....
Moore deceptively cut the Rice quote to fool the audience into thinking she was making a particular claim, even though she was pointedly not making such a claim. And since Rice spoke in November 2003, her quote had nothing to do with building up American fears before the March 2003 invasion, although Moore implies otherwise.
W 04 - Friday, August 6, 2004 - link
If you want to be truly informed then Fahrenheit 9/11 is the wrong movie to watch.Jalf - Friday, August 6, 2004 - link
As GTaudiophile said, there's definitely far more anti-Americanism around than before Bush. I live in Europe, in one of the more US-friendly countries even, and I'd be hard pressed to find anyone here who has the least respect for the US foreign policy. ;)Don't underestimate the disgust the rest of the world feels at Bush's foreign policy...
That said, people generally don't have a problem with individual americans (except the ignorant flag-waving kind, who feels that questioning things == being unpatriotic, and being unpatriotic == the ultimate crime)
I'm not sure if anti-americanism is even the right word. It's not that people dislike the country, or the individuals living there.
tay - Friday, August 6, 2004 - link
Your blog is broken in rss. The tags don't render the html properly and the tags can be sen.I use bloglines
GTaudiophile - Friday, August 6, 2004 - link
Anand: am over here in Munich, Germany at the moment on a business trip + vacation. Because I speak German almost fluently and am able to "blend in" to the point that most people approach me as a German, I have the distinct advantage of being able observe yet not actually experience modern european anti-Americanism. The hostility and tension certainly does seem much higher than in years past. #Having said that, many (young) American tourists deserve such antagonism simply because the majority are loud and abnoxious, finding humor in smashing beer bottles on public streets at four in the morning! But such events aside, a lot of the increased anti-Americanism can indeed be attributed to the Bush Administration.
How do I feel personally? Iraq was a bad move, but now that we are there, we have a job to see to its end. I also am an optimist: I like to wonder what the world may be like in 20 years if Iraq is a prosperous democracy in the Middle East and maybe, just maybe, even the most die-hard liberals will end up appreciating Bush's efforts.
Kevin R - Friday, August 6, 2004 - link
I have another movie to add to your list. It is call "Outfoxed". It is about how Fox News Channel is totally for the Right and over sesationalizes everything. It is on DVD at Amazon and is now being released at theaters in LA, DC, SF, NYC and Seattle this week. You can find more here:http://www.outfoxed.org/
Jumbi
Adam K - Friday, August 6, 2004 - link
Anand,Another movie you need to add is "The Corporation." It might make you think twice about your corporation's responsibility to our planet. (I am kidding, Anand, I know that you are a world conscious, intelligent person.) But you should go see it. You will never drink milk from cows treated with bovine growth hormone again! (if you even drink it today).
Have a good weekend, and thanks for coming back to your blog more.